Top 40 goes gaga for Goo Goo Dolls By Elysa Gardner, Special for USA TODAY The Goo Goo Dolls' lead singer and guitarist, Johnny Rzeznik, has a theory about his band's sleeper success. "I tell people that we've been writing hit songs for years," he says. "It's just that nobody ever heard them." Guys in Dolls: Mike Malinin, Johnny Rzeznik and Robby Takac have left the fringes for fame as the band the Goo Goo Dolls. Even the most casual pop-music fans grew familiar with the Goo Goo Dolls last summer, when Iris, their pining contribution to the City of Angels soundtrack, became one of the most inescapable Top 40 radio tracks in recent memory. More astute listeners will recall that the group also scored a No. 5 pop single back in 1995 with the buoyant Name. But few realize this guitar-pop group has been around for the better part of two decades, or that their most recent CD, 1998's Dizzy up the Girl - which has thus far sold more than 2 million copies and spawned their third Top 10 tune, Slide - was actually their sixth studio album, not including City of Angels. "It's kinda weird, all this interest in us now," muses Rzeznik, 33. "When our band first got started, college radio was the only outlet for music like ours. Now we get played on college radio, alternative and Top 40. I think a lot of bands ghettoize or isolate themselves, but I'm more concerned with writing a good song than I am with what genre it fits into." Last week, the Goo Goo Dolls, whose other members are bassist Robby Takac, 34, and drummer Mike Malinin, 31, kicked off a concert tour headlining two other bands that have successfully blended modern-rock textures with classic pop hooks, Sugar Ray and Fastball. "This is like a big payoff," Rzeznik says of the tour. "We traveled around in vans and played in front of nobody for a long time." Actually, Rzeznik and his bandmates have cleared more trying hurdles on their long road to commercial glory. The group's first record deal, signed in 1985, fizzled within two years. A subsequent contract, with Warner Bros. subsidiary Metal Blade Records, led to a legal battle and yet another deal - with Warner Bros. proper - a decade later. By this time, band tensions had led to the dismissal of original drummer George Tutuska, whom Malinin replaced in 1995. "I guess things never seemed horrible," says Takac. "There were small victories along the way that kept us going." The memory of their struggles, he adds, "will stop me from going out now and buying nine cars and a dozen Jet Skis, and then next year wondering where all my money went." "They were really living on bread and mayonnaise for a while," says Timothy White, editor in chief of Billboard and an early champion. "Their music is the story of making mid-course adjustments in life. They're good, messy, melodic rock 'n' roll songs - it's not tidy stuff. There's a lot of pathos in the music." For Rzeznik, the Goo Goo Dolls' trials followed an equally turbulent youth. In an article published in Teen People earlier this year, the singer documented his late father's alcoholism and the suffering it caused his family. "I'm proud of my past, just like I'm proud of where I am now," says Rzeznik. "What I was trying to do was to say to kids, 'Look at me - I had this (expletive) existence, and I still did something with myself.' " When a morning radio DJ recently mocked the article, chiding Rzeznik for "whining," the singer was predictably peeved. "I would like to take that guy outside and smack ... him," says Rzeznik, who won't identify the DJ. "It wasn't Howard Stern - he's really cool to us." In fact, when Iris was nominated for three Grammys earlier this year, the singer quipped that he would offer the statuettes to Stern. "I'm just sorry we didn't win, 'cause I was really looking forward to giving it to him." The Goo Goo Dolls are making a more soberly charitable gesture by asking their fans to bring nonperishable food items to their concerts, which the food-delivery organization USA Harvest will distribute to needy people in each community. The group also will be endorsing PAX Youth Petition, an anti-gun-violence organization, and distributing MTV's Fight for Your Rights: Take a Stand Against Violence, a CD of music and celebrity commentaries on reducing violence, plus an action guide, at each show. "I would say we'll have a lot of teen-agers in our audience - probably a lot of teen-age girls, since Sugar Ray is on tour with us," says Rzeznik. When it is suggested to him that the Goo Goo Dolls are hardly suffering from a dearth of female adolescent fans, the singer - whose shaggy-haired sex appeal led one critic to dub him "Johnny 'The Cute One' Rzeznik" - turns coy: "Reeallly? Well, I hope we have more of an effect on people than 'Oh, they're cute.' There were a lot of years where I was out playing and wasn't considered that. "That's all just peripheral stuff anyway - it's flattering, but it's not important. Our music isn't about what we're wearing, or our dance moves. It's all about the songs."